College Media Network - Search the largest news resource for college students by college students Jobs and internships for students -

Rants and Raves

Published: Wednesday, October 14, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, October 14, 2009

-If Obama got nominated for a Nobel Prize after 2 weeks in office and having largely accomplished nothing during his life thus far, shouldn’t I get an award for working three jobs, keeping a girlfriend happy, and taking a full class load?

-UWGstudents are bigger Dawg fans then they are wolves fans!?

-Wal-mart, tattoos, skateboard, movie theater ... the epitome of fun for Carrolltonians.

-Nice guys really DO finish last! Time to stop saying please and thank you..

-Is it just me or is the Z6 slipping ALOT lately?

-Yay, the library’s third floor is finally open!

-Why is homecoming such a big deal? We’re just going to lose anyway, and why celebrate that?

-If your roommate complains that you’re too loud and you go to your friend’s room, guess what? You just pissed off THEIR roommate. Learn to be quiet or leave.


Send Rants or Raves to uwgpaper@gmail.com with subject line “Rant & Rave.”

Recommended: Articles that may interest you

23 comments

Your name
Wed Nov 18 2009 07:25
Dear Carrie Prejean:

Take your money for your sex tape and stop acting like a victim. When women claim to be taken advantage of in a sexual context to improve their public image it only serves to weaken the cases of those who were legitimately taken advantage of. You are taking women back 50 years.

Michele
Thu Nov 12 2009 05:00
is it common practice for school advisors to advise students to attend another college to get the necessary classes??? anyone else see the stupidity in that.....
Ellis Smith
Sat Nov 7 2009 04:08
You're right, accomplishments are subjective. I, for instance, am a really good breather, walker, smiler, head scratcher, and teeth brusher. Should I get an award? Should I be a role model? Well, if somebody liked my politics enough, I guess they could give me an award based on my promise to "never nuke the moon," but that would be silly.

The "skills" I listed for myself are quite common. So are Obama's. He's a really good talker and reader. Does that mean he's accomplished anything for the American people? No. Objectively, we're worse off than when he came into office. And again, regardless of whether you measure personal accomplishments (graduated from college) or professional (got unemployment up to 10.3%), Obama's accomplishments are again, quite common.

In fact, I'm a really good talker and reader also, yet it would be silly for me to get the award, because I'm the wrong race, and I only have roughly 3/4 of the accomplishments of Obama (maybe the community organizer and president of the United States job titles are still in my future).

In America, we have a tradition of honoring those who have accomplished unique, groundbreaking, and amazing things. We honor excellence. Those who perform above and beyond what is expected of them are compensated. Yet you seem to propose to lower the bar. Were I a homeless man whose accomplishment was that I found an unopened can of peaches in a trash can, would I be worthy of the same deification that Obama has undergone? Of course not. Yet you propose that since accomplishments can allegedly not be judged save subjectively, that our homeless friend is on the same level as Marie Curie. That, my friend, is ludicrous. You're so open-minded that your brain has fallen out of your head.

jaded social worker
Fri Nov 6 2009 20:16
So, to be a role model, there are prerequisites? You have to accomplish "amazing" things?

Well, if that is true, what are those amazing things? What are the qualifications for "things" to be considered "amazing"? Who decides what those qualifications are?

Don't we get to choose who we look up to? Who we respect? Our role models?

Again, this is subjective. To use your example, yes, there could be someone who looks up to a black man who managed to stay out of jail. That would be that individuals qualification for success, accomplishment, or an "amazing thing". While someone else might not see that as something special, yourself for example. Because you and this other person fail to see eye to eye, does that make this person's opinion any less valuable? Do they have any less of a right to look up to a person they have qualified as a role model because you disagree about their merits? Absolutely not.

Ellis
Wed Nov 4 2009 20:53
Again, I ask you: What has Obama done for peace, or anything, for that matter, that many many others haven't done before him? Nothing.

Your point seems to be this: "Tons of people have graduated college and won elections. People do it all over the world. But Obama did it while black, so he should get a prize, because young black kids can't relate to real, actual success, only color."

Doesn't that seem kind of racist to you? I think black kids, white kids, mexicans, asians, everybody, deserves good, actual role models who have accomplished amazing things. I don't subscribe to the worldview that staying out of jail is normal, but staying out of jail while black makes you a role model.

Shouldn't the way we judge success and accomplishments should be independent of color?

jaded social worker
Wed Nov 4 2009 11:57
I didn't say anything about a prize. I said it's an accomplishment. If you are a member of or have worked with these popultations, you know that motivation and hope are a huge factors in success. They are certainly more abstract concepts that are not easily measured (as opposed to something more concrete like raising or lowering taxes, or employment rates for example). But that does not make them idiotic. Significance is subjective. You may not see a college education or becoming president of the united states as significant accomplishments. But for those who previously did not have aspirations beyond a minimum wage job and now have been inspired to finish high school or attend college, this accomplishment is significant. Besides, I think you can agree that a college education is significant, otherwise why would you be working towards one?
Ellis
Tue Nov 3 2009 23:59
So we should give prizes to people who have accomplished nothing significant because it makes people feel good? That's idiotic.
jaded social worker
Tue Nov 3 2009 11:29
Just because others have accomplished the same things you have does not take away from the fact that you have accomplished those things. Are Obama's accomplishments unique? No. Are they still accomplishments? Yes. And why the Obama hating on this issue? He didn't give himself the Nobel Peace Prize. Besides, and this is just my opinion, giving those that have been historically underrated (from poor backgrounds, minorities, single parent homes, etc.) some hope for a better future and higher aspirations to reach for, is an accomplishment in my book. I agree with Ace, Obama is neither a devil nor an angel. However, despite your political or personal opinions of his accomplishments, he is still a symbol of progress for many of Americans.
Obama = Sham-wow
Wed Oct 21 2009 21:35
My childhood babysitter accomplished as much as Obama. Saying Obama has accomplishments is like saying Michael Jordan has hair. Sure, there might be a few under his armpits, but that's not what we're talking about, is it?

Going to college is about as amazing as learning to plant turnips these days, and being a community organizer is about as important as going the toilet. Obama may have accomplishments, but his negative contributions far outweigh his so-called "accomplishments," which have only benefited himself.

He's probably a really good basketball player too, but that doesn't they should give him the Larry O'Brien NBA Championship Trophy.

The only accomplishments that count in politics are those that help others. Obama doesn't have any of those. He's only hurt the country so far, making us poorer, more unemployed, and more divided. That cancels out anything positive (and I challenge you to name something) that he's done, and I'm not talking about going to graduate school.

Ace
Mon Oct 19 2009 19:48
Michael Bishop is staying out of harm's way and the rest of you are just flexing your one-sided political muscle. I get really tired of things either being black and white with you people. Grow a critical brain. Obama is neither devil nor angel. He is a freaking man like the rest of us.
michael.alexander.bishop@gmail.com
Mon Oct 19 2009 16:41
Gah, y'all. One last time, one last comment from me. I was showing that those who say Obama has accomplished nothing during his life are simply incorrect. He has accomplished many things during his life. Am I saying that Obama deserved the Nobel because of these accomplishments? NO.
Above-Average Joe
Sun Oct 18 2009 23:40
All I'm seeing is "Obama has accomplished many things in his life."

From here spews the same tired, brief, and irrelevant list of "accomplishments" over again:
1) He graduated from Harvard.
2) He became president.

... And? Wait, that's it? That's a list that maybe deserves a hug or an ice cream cone (I'm buying). Not an internationally recognized and revered award that is NORMALLY presented to someone that does something of value.

E.A.S.
Sat Oct 17 2009 18:33
Both are true, because we are looking through the lens of public service.
Michael Bishop
Sat Oct 17 2009 13:39
Again, I was never arguing a case for why Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize. I was just pointing out that Obama has accomplished many things during his life thus far. There is a big difference between saying that "Obama has accomplished nothing as a president" and "Obama has accomplished nothing during his life".
E.A.S.
Fri Oct 16 2009 12:55
accomplishments, yes. Worthy of the slack-jawed adoration he receives from the media, or the Nobel Peace Prize? No.

Look, I could graduate from college this year and run for Mayor of Kennesaw, but as a politician, your accomplishments don't count until you do something for others. Obama hasn't made anyone's life better yet - in fact, many would argue that with rising unemployment, he has made many lives worse. I don't care if he got the highest score on the street fighter arcade, that has nothing to do with (a) how he's going to help the country or (b) how he's going to bring about world peace. And neither does teaching law, or being an ACORN sympathizer, or President.

All I hear are words from him, not actions. And talk is cheap. It is not an accomplishment.

Michael Bishop
Fri Oct 16 2009 03:19
OK, y'all. The definition of accomplishment is any goal that one has achieved. Regardless of one's political views, Obama has accomplished many things during his life. Rational people agree...graduating from a university, being elected into political office ARE considered ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
Everett
Fri Oct 16 2009 02:22
Going to college and getting elected to political office in one of the most politically corrupt states in the union isn't really an accomplishment, especially considering that once he was there, he did nothing but make promises, as he's been doing for the last several years. He has yet to actually accomplish anything other than to continually make vague and wonderful sounding promises about how great everything's going to be...as our country continues to shed 600,000 jobs per month. Please wake me when he accomplishes something.
Michael Bishop
Fri Oct 16 2009 01:48
Whoa, dude. I wasn't making an argument for why Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize. I was merely pointing out that OBAMA HAS ACCOMPLISHED MANY THINGS DURING HIS LIFE THUS FAR. Geez...
Your name
Fri Oct 16 2009 01:37
You think Obama deserves the prize because he ran a good presidential campaign? Let me tell you about somebody who is a real American hero, somebody who has actually accomplished something. I'll leave the name blank, and you can try to figure out who it is. If it helps, just visualize him as an African-American.

Following the attacks on Pearl Harbor in 1941, at the age of 18, ____ postponed going to college and became the youngest naval aviator in the US Navy at the time. He served until the end of the war, then attended Yale University. Graduating in 1948, he moved his family to West Texas and entered the oil business, becoming a millionaire by the age of 40.

[Yougest naval aviator? Yale University? Became a millionaire by his 40th birthday? That's already more than Obama ever did, and we're just getting started.]

Nixon appointed him Ambassador to the United Nations. He was confirmed unanimously by the Senate, and served for two years, beginning in 1971. Gerald Ford, Nixon's successor, appointed ____ to be Chief of the US Liaison Office in the People's Republic of China. [China was opened to the West during Nixon's tenure]

In 1976, Ford brought _____ back to Washington to become Director of Central Intelligence. The CIA had been rocked by a series of revelations, including those based on investigations by Senator Frank Church's Committee regarding illegal and unauthorized activities by the CIA, and Bush was credited with helping to restore the agency's morale.

Between 1977 and 1979, he was a director of the Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy organization. As Vice President, _____ generally took on a low-profile while recognizing the constitutional limits of the office.

[Do you know who this is yet?]

_____ became the first Vice President to become Acting President when, on July 13, 1985, Reagan underwent surgery to remove polyps from his colon. _____ served as Acting President for approximately eight hours.

George H.W. Bush [you should know who he is by now] went on to win the presidency in a landslide, achieved a record high 89 percent approval rating, kicked Iraq out of Kuwait after they invaded, winning the war with international support and few casualties and preserving world peace, instituted NAFTA, and later appeared together with Bill Clinton in television ads in 2005, encouraging aid for victims of Hurricane Katrina and the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami.

Now that's a story. Give that man a prize. Oh, I forgot to mention that Soviet Russia fell during his watch. That's what you call an accomplishment. That's what gave us over a decade of peace in the 1990s, while our economy grew over 52 percent as a result of NAFTA.

When they start giving Nobel Peace Prizes to people who actually deserve them and not somebody whose main accomplishment is that they became president thanks to constant free advertising from the liberal media, I'll have this conversation with you again. Until then, do some reading.

E.A.S.
Fri Oct 16 2009 01:01
Let me break it down for you.

Graduate enrollment at Harvard every year is 9,789. Certainly not all of them deserve Nobel Peace Prizes. They have not created peace. They simply graduated from college, something millions of Americans do every year.

There are thousands of ACORN community organizers. Certainly they don't deserve Nobel Peace Prizes. They have not created peace. They just help set up international sex trafficking rings.

There have been millions of editors of many different college newspapers around the country, and thousands at the Harvard Law Review. They don't deserve Nobel Peace Prizes, they have not created peace. They just write a newspaper.

There have been millions of professors teaching millions of classes at campuses around the world. Some of them have received Nobel Prizes for things like science (but not math), and few have created peace. Obama was among those who did not create peace during his tenure, but instead taught Constitutional law (and apparently forgot about the First and Second amendments to the Constitution in the process). He did not create peace.

There are thousands of junior senators around the United States. In the big scheme of things, they don't do a whole lot. Obama did even less than most, usually voting present. He did not create peace as a Senator, either.

Obama happens to be black, which is an accident of birth and ancestry, not anything that he did. He also happens to be a great public speaker, with few deeds in his past for opponents to seize on (and few in his present, according to SNL and anybody paying attention). After being elected president, largely with the help of an adoring media and a public too caught up in the excitement to think about his stance on the issues, he became president, like over 40 men before him. Many of them didn't create peace, and didn't win Nobel Peace Prizes. Many of them did create peace, and didn't win Nobel Prizes. As President, Obama hasn't created peace. We are still fighting two wars, he continues to allow Iranian nuclear proliferation, battles have intensified in Afghanistan, he has defeated no enemy, nor withdrawn from any conflict. There is still unrest in the Middle East.

Most importantly, his nomination for the prize came due two weeks after he assumed his duties as president, probably about the time he learned the quickest path between the Lincoln Bedroom and the Oval Office, but before he had performed even one action of consequence. To this day, he has done...nothing. He has not created peace. He does not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.

His actions, other than an accident of genetics unrelated to any choices he has made, have been inconsequential - their only consequence is that they have helped propel his statist agenda into the national limelight, resulting in a more polarizing presidency than George W. Bush. If anything, he has moved this country one step closer to a political split, far from the "uniting" influence he promised.

Does that make it easier for you?







log out